In this newsgroup i find a lot of personal stories that amuse me or sometimes gives me an 'aha-erlebnis'. So here's my own. I started doing drugs on highschool, some 15 years ago, where we smoked some pot and 'nederweed'. At that time almost everybody who smoked cigarettes smoked pot at least once; in Holland it's almost a tradition. The culture of handrolled cigarettes is debit on that. At that time it was part of the highschool, alternative scene. After highschool i went to the graphic technical school in Amsterdam, where smoking and smoking pot was not unusual. We could smoke in our breaks and even the principal smoked with us sometimes, just to know about. For some, it might prove the Sodom and Gommorra in Holland, but all of it took place in a natural way, there were no excesses and nobody was stoned all the time. From some of the people at that time i still hear sometimes and none of them had a problem with addiction. For myself: when i noticed that it was just a habit like normal smoking i quit, and i had no problems whatsoever. A few years later, when i was working as a designer in the advertising world i got in contact with coke. My boss left me a line or two on the glass-plate of the reproduction camera to keep going long after nomal office-hours. Not too long after that i spend a great deal of my money on coke, just to keep going. I arrived in the standard circle of using to keep awake after 24-hour days. After a few months i looked like hell, and felt the same, but watching myself in the mirror only mae me feel good because i looked worn-out like all my movie heroes. My nose started bleeding regulary and one day at work my heart started to hurt like i never felt before. The only thing i could do was just sit and wait. After a few hours, the pain started to get less and i felt i escaped from a heart-failure. Still, half an hour later i snorred my next line in the bathroom, and felt better. At that time i knew i had gone far enough, called myself sick the next day at work and went to bed. I slept over 48 hours, snorred my last remains of coke and started to work again. Not that it was easy, but after several weeks the need for coke was gone, only the desire kept. So i didn't visit places where there was a lot of temptation and it kept me clean, although a smal piece of desire will be with me the rest of my life. I told my wife freely about my former habits, and although even she had smoked marihuana and weed, at first she was shocked. To my own belief, using drugs, even hard-drugs, at least once in your life, is a worthy experience. For that reason i kept in the back of my mind, that my wife should do cocaîne once; just to know what it is, the media rave about. It wasn't coke she started on, but XTC. We took the pils one evening with a friend. I myself only had a weary kind of feeling, but my wife went back to her childhood and started to crawl around, wondering how big the world was. For all of us it was a nice experience, and several weeks later, in the safety of our own house we took XTC again. Those were beautiful weekends, were we explored each other and ourselves. Faboulous new feelings and knowledge was discovered. Using Internet as a guide and source of information was vital on what we could expect and where the dangers were. We went on, on some LSD, but the bloths we took were not stabil, so once we took LSD, and when that didn't had any effect we took some XTC. That night was unforgetable. I myself, couldn't make the difference between real and unreal, and one of my basic fears of going crazy started to run me. My wife kept by herself but was unable to get me out because of the resistance i had just experiencing what i felt. Of course, after a few hours it simply went away. At first that scared me of LSD, but days later i experienced it as a wonderfull way of learning. My fear of losing my mind once just went away. After that, we used acid once awhile but without the XTC and we had some nice evenings watching all we could see. Somehow it is a search for new experiences so we started to use some speed after the XTC. Again, we had 48-hour talks about all kind of things; from global enlightment to our own relation. We also had highly spiritual thoughts, like often read in these newsgroups, but don't take things too serious; what at one time seems enlightened, another time seems absurd, but that don't take the fun away and your thoughts then can be of positive influence later. All that time we used drugs in our home and only once we went shopping on XTC. Other then in the US, XTC here, is strongly related to the dance-scene and since i was more of a thinker then a dancer we never visited houseparties 'till one day we got tired of using at home, and we explored all we could think of and went to a danceclub. As a rock 'n roll lover, housemusic never had any effect on me, and for me it was for kids who later on in their life would learn to like the 3/4 rithme of 'real' music. But after half an hour i was on the dancefloor and found myself in complete harmony with the technoritme. Other then my younger years, when dancing on soul and disco was about conquering girls, for the first time in my life i danced for myself, with closed eyes and i didn't even wonder if i looked silly and i discovered a way to express myself in dance; not for others, but only to myself. This was an amazing discovery for me which is even greater then all of the spiritual ones mentioned above. I also discovered that with drugs more don't mean better. Even if i take four pills an evening, the feeling don't become better or more intense. One pill is nice to get in the mood and loose the thoughts about everyday life and the speed will keep you going. Of course, i have no long time experience on the usage of drugs, and maybe it will shorten my life a bit, but it can also make your life (and your relation) more intense. I'm glad the Internet gives all neccesary information to make well-thought choices and sure: too much is always harmfull and dangerous, as i myself experienced once, but good information is vital and can save peoples lives! Mark